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Mark Driscoll brings the Word. Isn't that was caused the problems with Schuller the younger?
You can watch it here.
(HT Vit Z: Check him out he keeps a great blog)
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Mark Driscoll brings the Word. Isn't that was caused the problems with Schuller the younger?
You can watch it here.
(HT Vit Z: Check him out he keeps a great blog)
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I wasn't aware of Robert Schuller's universalism until I saw some of the commentary on Mark Driscoll's appearance there. I don't feel entirely comfortable with Mark Driscoll, but from my research, he did a shakey, but brave thing by preaching Jesus is the only way to God - contrary to Schuller's universalist views. Is this right? Does Robert Schuller still preach universalism?
From a 1992 interview with Robert Schuller.
QUESTIONER: Would you be willing to address your congregation as a group as sinners?
SCHULLER: No I don't think I need to do that. ... My only concern is: I don't want to drive them farther away than they are! ... I do let people know how great their sins and miseries are. How do I do that? I don't do that by standing in a pulpit and telling them they're sinners. ... The way I do it is ask questions. Are you happy? Do you have problems, what are they? So then I come across as somebody who cares about them ... So the way I preach sin is by calling to attention what it does to them here and now, and their need for divine grace! ... I believe in heaven. I believe in hell. But I don't know what happens there. I don't take it literally that it's a fire that never stops burning.
QUESTIONER: As Jesus said it was?
SCHULLER: Jesus was not literal.
QUESTIONER: Justified from what? The wrath of God?
SCHULLER: Oh! I'll never use that language.
QUESTIONER: But the Bible does.
SCHULLER: Yes, the Bible does, but the Bible is ... a contradiction: Old Testament -- Law, New Testament -- Grace. Jesus is a contradiction; totally human and totally God.
QUESTIONER: Of course we would say that the dual nature of Christ is a "mystery" but not a contradiction.
SCHULLER: It is a contradiction, but you know what? Contradictions are ultimate points of creativity...
I was kind of shocked, but all large scale televangelists face this risk of selling out the real Jesus and putting in a more attractive one; so at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised. I'm concerned because my family and I somtimes watch Hour of Power when getting ready in the morning.
As a side note, I noticed how fired up Driscoll was, maybe a bit of nervousness mixed in with the Spirit when speaking plain Gospel from the Word to a misled congregation. If this is right, then "Right on, Driscoll!"
What are your thoughts?
Kevin you are right on, Shuller in my book is a heretic through what he teaches when its under the guise of being scriptural. He does not preach the gospel of Christ alone for salvation but a psycologized self help feel good concoction. I applaud Driscoll for this yesterday. My opinion of Mark is that he is a solid reformed baptist preacher with some rough edges. The shaky stuff I believe is that some are afraid of his upfrontness, and he likes a beer from time to time which got him on the Southern baptist hit list. All in all he is a solid Calvinist and a great communicator to the crowd he speaks to.